Beekeeping In The Southern Arizona Heat & Honey Bee Rehab

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May I have your attention please? The following is not the real Jeff Vox review.

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If your formerly white beekeeping suit looks like you washed it in orange

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propolis, you might be a beekeeper. If once a year your kitchen becomes sticky

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from floor to ceiling, you might be a beekeeper. If the thought of someone

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microwaving crystallized honey makes your skin crawl, you might be a beekeeper.

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Welcome, welcome to Be Love Beekeeping Podcast presented by our good friends

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over at Man Lake. Special thanks goes out to the not real Jeff Foxworthy for

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that fun intro. I think he just may end up being a regular on the show. At Bee

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Love we're all about honeybees and of course the beekeepers. We're going to

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live beekeepers. Beekeepers and fun beekeeping stories, it's all about the

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love. On today's episode we're going to Southern Arizona for a conversation with

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beekeeper who can tell us all about what it's like keeping bees in a really hot

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environment. Then off to the south of France to learn about a revolutionary new

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bee smoker device. But first how about a wild and crazy beekeeping story sent in

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by Paola? She writes, last weekend my hive was getting robbed by an enormous

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wild hive. My backyard looked like a tornado of bees. Kind of freaked out the

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neighbors. So in an effort to help or rather feel helpful, I ran out without

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any bee-suter protective gear, grabbed my garden hose, and started showering the

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hive and the plume of bees around it. It seemed to be working but all of a

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sudden I had hundreds of bees on me. Maybe a thousand very wet bees. According to

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my husband I was absolutely covered in bees so I dropped the hose and shimmied

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over to a sunny spot. I got stung in the process and did everything in my power

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not to trigger a potential firestorm of stings from the other bees. I stayed

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frozen in the sun, soaking wet with God knows how many bees crawling all over me

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for about 30 minutes. One by one they dried and flew off. Good news is my

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hive was able to defend itself and the robbing stopped but less than learned

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never run out without a bee suit to intervene in a robbing. And here's a

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short one from Sharon. She says my husband wanted me to come outside to look at

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a hive. I said wait let me get my shoes. He said it's still raining the girls are

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all inside. You're safe you don't need your shoes. Yep you guessed it got stung

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on the bottom of my foot.

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Hey everybody I'd like to welcome as our special guest today Monica King from

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Arizona. Monica how are you? Doing great thank you. Thanks for having me Eric.

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Hey give us just a quick background. Where in Arizona are you and then let's

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talk about what beekeeping is like down there in the heat. Yes I'm actually

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located west of Tucson Arizona approximately 32 miles from the Mexico

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border and I've been beekeeping here. I actually moved here in 1994 from Florida

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and it is way different. It's a dry heat. The bees have issues with meltdowns if

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the colony is not extremely strong so beekeepers have to be aware of the

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temperatures and be able to provide water internally to the hives if they

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don't have the forage population necessary to do the water foraging and

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then we also have issues with the Queen's overheating and our

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brood overheating so if the internal temperatures reach 104 degrees or more

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we have substantial damage without even knowing it as beekeepers will

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go into the colony and we'll be going what happened and here it's because of

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internal overheating. Okay slow down that's three big problems. I want to

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learn about each one of them. The first one you called hive meltdown. Is it

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actually melting? Is it hot enough to wax melt? Yes exactly. Oh my gosh. So does it

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like ooze out of the entrance? Yes and bees get stuck in their own honey and

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it's it's those kind of things also cause robbing of course so there's just a

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new you know ant problems that right there is one of the major problems for

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people that like to try to utilize other hive styles other than the Langstrop so

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like when somebody is interested in doing like say a top bar hive you know

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where it doesn't have any structure to hold the comb other than that top bar it

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is extremely difficult so we always recommend to new beekeepers to start off

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with the standard Langstrop so that they learn temperature regulation they

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they learn how actually how the bees use airflow in order to thermoregulate at

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the same time protecting the hive from the robbers while providing that airflow

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so there's all kinds of different things that we actually have to do in order to

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prevent the colony from having that honey meltdown. And I assume you want

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foundation on those frames. Exactly that's the easiest way to to be able to

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handle it those those top bars like we're talking about I mean you go in and

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do an inspection you lift the bar up and the whole comb just pops off so that

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is a huge issue so we basically tell beekeepers you know learn the Langstrop

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style use foundation get comfortable with all that and maybe when you hit

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you're like your fifth year beekeeping then you can play around with the more

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unique hive styles such as top bar and a lot of beekeepers in southern Arizona

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don't even recommend them at all but I do have some of my students do use them

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successfully we had a local beekeeper that had up to 70 of them it just is a

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lot more there's a lot more maintenance involved with those in southern Arizona.

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I just can't imagine taking a frame out of a top bar or a bar out of a top

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bar whatever we call it on a really hot day it just seems like it would fall

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apart. Yes exactly exactly. Now you mentioned the term weak hive can a strong

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hive keep the internal temperature cool enough that we don't have these meltdown

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issues? Yes yes if you have a strong colony you know I'm talking like double

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deep with some medium or triple deep with medium supers on top and you have

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like a colony that has got that 50, 65,000 count work power and they have a

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good airflow which means either utilizing things like screen bottom boards

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or the round entrance discs where you can flip it to the screen on multiple

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levels or even having a inner cover style where there we actually have made it

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where the inner cover has a screen and then we put another box on top of that

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so that the hot air rises out and is able to escape over through the upper box

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also having a screen. So we utilize green a lot here in southern Arizona to

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protect our hives from the robbing but to allow that airflow that is necessary

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for them to do their thermal regulation. Then having so you have a population

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that can then fan the water that they're bringing in but you also have to have

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those forage bees to go out and gather that water so sometimes that large

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colony they can handle that. The small colonies with a lower forage population

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they end up having an internal like a frame feeder with water in it not

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sugar syrup but an actual internal frame feeder with water will assist

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allowing humidity because like I said it's a dry heat and going back to that so

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your brood needs to have a humidity level inside of it and with this dry heat

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and let's say your low on forage population your brood will actually be

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too dry I mean you can look at the food that you know inside the cells and

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realize that it's all dried up there's not a whole lot of moisture in your in

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your worker bee jelly or your royal jelly and you're realizing okay we've got

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some issues with moisture and so by putting that internal frame feeder

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inside the colony it does assist greatly. The other thing we do is we will add

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things like insulation board on top. I would extending over with a block on it

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for those smaller hives. Our commercial beekeepers that regularly have really you

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know they they will combine hives keep strong hives so that they can keep them

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in the middle of you know like an open agricultural field or whatever and they

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don't have the issues where we have bees that are in areas where maybe the the

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hobbyists didn't control the mite problem and so they had a decrease somehow

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there was a decrease in the forage population or the the whole demographics

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as a whole and then you don't have that those water foragers so we're just

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basically assisting them when needed. Right what about shade I know for a

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commercial beekeeper it wouldn't really be possible but for hobbyist with two four

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six whatever right are there good ways to just I mean does it help a lot to just

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get some shade up? It does it does help a lot so actually in places like Yuma or

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the Imperial Valley where you see commercial beekeepers with hives they

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actually build shade structures for their colonies so it does you know they do

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do it. In Southern Arizona we highly recommend trying to find a nice shade

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tree and put in the colony on the northeast side of that shade tree so

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it's getting morning sun yet afternoon shade and if you don't have that some

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people's yards don't have a shade tree I mean you're stuck with the scrub bushes

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type thing and so basically that really thick insulation foam insulation kind of

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like a sheet and it's thick and you can actually sit that on top of your colony

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with a block and so that when the wind comes but have it overextend off to the

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sides making sure that in the heat of the day around that one two three three

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p.m. time period that that side is completely shaded so that the sun is

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just not beating down on the wall of the box. So it's almost like putting a big

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hat on it. Yeah exactly. Big sombrero on your bee hives. Sombrero. Exactly. And what

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happens to the Queens you mentioned that do they just get too hot? Yes well if the

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Queens get too hot it has the heat has the ability to actually I'm gonna

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I'm gonna just basically say nuke the sperm inside her spermatheca. She will

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no longer be able to lay and the bees will like consider her basically faulty.

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Yeah damage goods and want to replace her. Damage goods and want to replace her

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and we have we have Africanized bees in our area so basically if your European

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Queen is overheated the bees decide that they want to replace her because of

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that then the daughter goes out and mates with Africanized drones and your

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residential backyard beehive now becomes a potentially dangerous colony and so

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now you're out your your money for spending on the the original European

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Queen and you need to go buy another European Queen and some people don't

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understand it's due to heat not due to Queen quality and that's something that

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gonna be doing a talk on on Queen quality more than just genetics at the

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Arizona Honeybee Festival next month and just to try to get the word out there

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that there is a larger picture when you are talking about your Queen and and

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how she's laying. So it's not a matter of the heat killing the Queen it

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basically sterilizes the Queen. Basic there you go yeah and it also kills the

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brood. Yeah. So there's you know yeah. When it gets cooler can the Queen start

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laying again or is she sterile forever? It depends on the temperatures that she

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hit you know and the percentage of of what's going on so I there's more

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research I think that should be done in this area to answer your question there

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like is she completely damaged or she just have some now sterile eggs that

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she's laying and the bees are realizing those eggs you know that she's laying as

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a worker bee intended to be a worker bee but are not they this is a fertile egg

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and I'm putting it into a worker cell but it's not a fertile egg you know and

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they pull it out and discard it or cannibalize it you know there's there's

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I think some research needs to be done more in in that kind of department. Okay

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so for everybody out there that's in grad school right now. Yes. And you need

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some kind of a some kind of a PhD research study to do there you go

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there's an idea for you. I want to talk more about this subject of Africanized

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bees. I'm lucky I live in an area where we don't have them yet I'm up in Utah we

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have cold winters but I hear so much about them part of what you do is what

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you call honeybee rehab. Yes. Tell me more about that. Well for instance last

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night I went and gathered a hive from an owl box so we have a lot of people that

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are just sweetheart you know like put out these owl boxes and even though it's

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small it's not something like you would hear of a European colony choosing if

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they swarmed our Africanized bees don't mind small compartments so we'll find

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them in water meter boxes in these owl boxes in compost bins in all these

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different locations and of course homeowners don't want them there so I

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go in and I remove these bees and the reason why we call them all Africanized

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is because around 2008 our USDA lab here in Tucson Carl Hayden Research Center

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did sampling from the Mexico border all the way to the South Rim of the Grand

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Canyon and at that time 98% came back as hybridized to one extent or another so

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the percentages will vary according to the colony so with that said we don't

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know we treat every colony like it has that potential to be that killer hive

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right so and those that can't see I did quotes around that air quotes so

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basically air quotes around killer so what it is is normally in the past era

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about one in 20 of these colonies when I would go into them I would consider them

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my number 10 on my heater meter scale where they did they would you know if I

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didn't have a suit on if I didn't have gloves and you know full protective gear

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these bees were trying 50 to 100 200 trying to sting me all at one time one

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in 20 colonies in the past have been like that for some odd reason this year

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that percentage is more like a third of them and I don't know why so what do you

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do what's your rehab so I bring them back to my apiary in the middle of nowhere

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where they're not going to bother any humans or pets animals anything like

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that and I have the ability to then requeen them so I go in and change their

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genetics basically I find I allow them to get settled in a couple weeks allow

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the African ice queen to start laying secure the colony inside of the Lang

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Stroth box and then once they're all happy then I go in and I I remove their

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queen and depending on their attitude there's different ways that I requeen

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them so sometimes if they're really really nasty I might divide them like if

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I if it's a double deep-sized colony for instance I might divide them into five

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smaller nucleus colonies in order to get them to accept new queens which means

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I'm buying five European Queens for that one colony but they seem to have this

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safety in numbers kind of mentality and so if you decrease their numbers they're

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more than likely going to accept that new European Queen as their new mom and I

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wait five days so that they have no choice but you know my queen is their

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new new queen and then sometimes they don't like that even she they allow her

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to start laying eggs and then they try to supersede her right away I mean these

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worker these worker African ice bees are pretty amazing I respect them 100% I

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keep some of them I use them as donor hives they're fantastic they they brood

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all the way through winter as long as you feed them they will make you more

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and more worker bees there's no such thing as shutting down with these girls

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so have you ever tried instead of introducing a new queen just put a

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frame of brood that maybe has a queen cell on it does that work at all well so

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if I took like a frame of brood from one of my European colonies yeah and gave

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them only my frame of brood kind of thing to raise a queen they would do

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that but the majority of the drones that that queen is you know that virgin

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queen is going to emerge and have to go fly and mate with are going to be usually

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African ice stock so which genetics are stronger from the queen or from the

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drones oh so they claim and I'm not another php steady yes they claim that

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the defensive behavior of a colony comes from the drone side but I'm not a

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hundred percent on that so it sounds like that idea just wouldn't really solve

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the problem yeah you need to introduce European Queens yes exactly okay so you

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rehab a colony that way you keep them do you sell them what do you do with them

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after that so I my niche is I teach I'm an educator I have beekeeping 101 I'm

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a mentor I have students that range from brand new to 10 years in beekeeping and

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I basically will resell the colonies to them I keep an average about a hundred

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hives for myself but yeah that's my big thing I have donor high I keep I call it

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donor hives I mean if you have a cat or dog that has an issue you take it into

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the vet clinic and they have a donor animal to be able to draw blood from for

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instance and I have that same thing where I have my donor colonies where if a

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colony or two is having issues in a hobbyist's backyard I will go pull from

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my colonies and take them frames to save them so it is a lot of work I mean

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this is not something the average beekeeper makes a living doing I mean

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it's kind of an odd you know niche that I've found but it is something I see as

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a necessary new job for beekeepers across the nation I mean if you have

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patience and ability experience to educate it is really an void that needs

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filled I mean because you see commercial beekeepers dropping off a load of 200

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nukes in an area and all these excited brand new one-time first first time you

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know beekeepers run and grab those nucleus colonies and then you try to

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reach the commercial beekeeper to say what do I do now I don't know what I'm

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doing while he's too busy you know taking care of their 4,000 colonies to

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answer a hobbyist with with all these issues and I found over the last decade

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of teaching I have found that individuals learn differently so I have

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people with PTSD I have people with ADHD I have people with glaucoma that can't

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see and you might be frustrated because they're telling you one thing yet if

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you actually go visit their colony you'll see something different they'll

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say I have no brood I have no brood and you know and they've been beekeeping for

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a year and you go into the colony and you're like going you have seven frames

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of brood and you know and and you this this is honey this is brood but they

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can't see so you have to find a way to teach in a different manner those people

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the difference between a honey and a brood frame because even though the normal

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person might pick it up their eyesight is not registering so you'll find that as

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a mentor you will have these different students that require have different

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needs and that's what I do so my bees go into the hands of my students so you

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have a hundred colonies you do removals you teach you mentor sounds like you're

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doing this full-time yes yes yes and sometimes at all hours I'm sure people

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are curious a little bit about your business model where do you make the

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money from is it mostly teaching or what no most of the money I would say

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probably comes in from removals because they're Africanized bees and we have a

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lot of expenses involved and you doing a cutout you have to have a level of

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experience in order to do that cutout we charge for those so the homeowner pays a

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fee for the removal you might hear on the internet the Africanized bees are

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resistant to parasites and pathogens and that they're the ones you know they're

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the survivor stock and woohoo but that's not what I'm seeing today in the

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call the wild colonies so I am trying to pair up with some I actually am in in

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the middle of talks right now to have Africanized testing on each colony that

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I remove along with pathogen testing so that I can document what is going on in

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the Africanized wild colonies because I'm not seeing all these hives be healthy

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I'm seeing high might loads 16 mites in one drone cell is not a good thing for a

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wild colony and we see that the Africanized colonies basically just

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abscond when there's a high might load and they might be absconding in the

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middle of November when there's no resources out there for them to rebuild

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but they got to get away so all of this stuff as things that I want to document

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either either in a book or on a website or somewhere to show what's happening

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with our our feral colonies in the Southwest and so basically with all of

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that we also are seeing a lot of the acute paralysis virus in these feral

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colonies so we're looking for answers because I think it's something that an

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environment that gives everything that the bees need nutritionally the bees

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can then fight off low-dose pesticide parasites that kind of thing the

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stronger they are the more they can fight that off think immune system and

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we've had some really odd rainfall so with the lack of rains lack of forage

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that kind of stuff I think that might be our answer as to why our feral colonies

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are not doing as well but it's something that I'm working on so when you

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remove a colony of these Africanized bees do you immediately do a mite check

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I'm curious what they're like when they're new no I don't when I'm removing

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them it is very invasive yeah cutting their comb apart I'm doing all these

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things I do note if I visually see mites on the worker bees I do any drone

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brood I don't keep like that's immediately thrown to my chickens right

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nobody wants to raise more Africanized bees or promote the genetics in the in

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the field so I don't keep the drone brood but I do open it so I will use one

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of the honey scratching tools that hobbyists use to harvest honey I'll

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actually use one of those tools to open my drone brood from these removals and

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then I'll look to see how bad of a mite situation the colonies are having so

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that's what I I have not been doing the mite count and but I'm thinking I

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probably will start doing it I just don't like taking out 300 bees in order to

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do a mite count when they're already going through a transition and had a

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large loss to start with yeah they had their own PTSD yeah yeah tell me a

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little bit more about your background because you mentioned to me when we

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talked earlier you're a third-generation beekeeper how does that work yes so my

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family started beekeeping in 1936 based out of Pennsylvania my grandfather he

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actually I've got some really awesome photos of my dad as a baby and my

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grandfather over in almond pollination and so it's something that's been in

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the family for a long time my dad oldest of ten children he started do we

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pollination services we did honey production and then he became he and my

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mom became some of the top queen producers in the United States so I

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come from a pretty strong family background I am one of the mixes so if

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anybody has ever heard of Dave and Linda Mixa out of Florida though that's my

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family so I'm the oldest of the siblings from the Mixa family so you have the

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genetics here yes yes it's in the blood I like it one last thing before we wrap

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up I'm curious what winter is like where you are I know it doesn't get all that

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cold but is there a lot of forage for the bees what's it like so as you you know

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most people know that they bees forage around 50 55 degrees and they head out

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to try to find resources to bring back to the colony and yes we have those

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temperatures almost on a daily basis during our winter and the bees find

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nothing so they become very they become pests to local if they're in a

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neighborhood or whatever I right now this morning I got three phone calls

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from people's hummingbird feeders being attacked by my bees and people you know

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they take home soda from the kids leaving sodas out and all this other

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stuff and so yeah they forage but they don't have it so beekeepers in Southern

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Arizona have to feed a lot because if they don't go into our winter with the

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colony weighing around a hundred pounds total equipment and honey stores around

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five frames of brood and around 25,000 bees then you have to feed in order to

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get through winter because they're utilizing carbohydrates in order to go

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do that forage that they're triggered to do by our warmer climate and then

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they're bringing home nothing so that's basically the the magic numbers for

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southern Arizona so it's really not in some ways not that different than being

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in a cold climate as far as what they need to be prepared for winter the winter

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is just different right because it's just dirt for a long time yes yes yep

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our bees go out and work in it where yeah other bees just get to stay home and

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we don't have to worry about all the mold like the northern climates you know

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and and issues like that but we we have actual mite problems year round down

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here because our bees a lot of times our queen bees won't even shut down for

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winter because the temperatures stimulate the brood production it's not

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uncommon for at least a fistful size of a brood to be in the colony year round

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which means we're breeding mites year round yeah no brood break no brood

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lastly I want to hear some wild and crazy beekeeping stories that you have

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personally experienced or witnessed and I say wild and crazy they can also be

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embarrassing and painful okay so I had a really interesting removal that I did it

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was a large colony that attached itself to a block wall in a residential

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neighborhood using a tree limbs also and they were intertwined stuck on the

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block wall and inside this tree and instead of it looking like a nice

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straight comb it was more like catacomb and it was really an interesting

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removal especially after I got the bees back and I use the Colorado bee vac as

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my standard bee removal system and so the vacuum box was being emptied into a

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deep and as soon as I dumped the bees out I found the queen immediately picked

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her up and all the bees took off and left me and I'm holding the queen and

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I'm going hello this is a cutout you know so I am right away I'm like going

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here here's your mama yeah you're supposed to stay here hey sometimes you

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know colonies will have two queens and it's not uncommon this can happen no

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problem I'm like oh they have two queens and this one doesn't have the

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pheromone necessary so I went and grabbed some more queen cages and for some

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odd reason I pocketed three queen cases in my pocket and I needed all three of

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them in a cutout there was four mated queens and I had never seen that before

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so what to do what to do so I went ahead and put made up four nucleus colonies

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and put the four queens and cages and four or five frame nucleus colonies and

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then I dumped the bees I mean like I've dumped the bees because it the there was

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probably around 30 40,000 bees and I thought hey this is great you know at

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springtime I'm gonna make four out of this one and so I dumped them evenly

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over top of all of the queens and the next morning when I went out they all

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were trying to squeeze into one box so I contacted a friend of mine you know just

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talking about the unique experience I said what what do you make from this

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four mated queens in one quality you know one colony and you know we've always

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heard of two possible three rare four what that what's going on with this and

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he said the only thing I can think of is they were lesbians I don't know if you

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can use that you might have to edit that part out I did not see that coming oh my

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gosh okay anything crazy happened to you any weird crazy stings or anything like

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that I cannot stress the importance of a really good quality suit enough I

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really just can't I mean there's beekeeper error many times where people

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don't zip the suit up completely correctly and stuff like that and you know

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on occasion I've done I've done something silly like that too and had a you know a

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breach I've got some students that firmly believe they can make their own bee

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keeping suits and so I have to hand it to this one hobbyist brilliant the suit

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looked fantastic I mean like probably spent three four days on it only to

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realize that seven bees got into the veil part all at the same time and of

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course opened the veil right in the middle of doing the inspection which the

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hive had turned Africanized on her they had the whole the whole situation

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actually it was already an Africanized hive if I remember correctly she was

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doing everything backwards she was starting with a top bar hive and caught

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a feral colony and made her own B suit after taking my beekeeping 101 class and

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me trying to stress the importance of starting with a European colony and a

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great quality suit so there's some situations where some people just have

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to learn from themselves for through experience in order for that to stick so

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I tell these stories and I only hope that people hear hear that you know don't

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trust the Africanized colonies even though you might walk past them

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constantly you might even visit open the colony up one day it just takes that one

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day where they change and they are unpredictably defensive and I will leave

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it with that was she okay did she get stings on her face she got stings in

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her face she sent me pictures she said it was better than Botox but luckily she

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was not allergic or had an allergic reaction and allergists say and the

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medical profession tell me that 50 stings or more is when anybody should have to

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worry you know at one time because that could do things to your heart and things

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like that so I always recommend you know the same thing at my beekeeping classes

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tell your doctor you have a hive and try to get an EpiPen prescription that's

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like a number one thing that I also try to stress is very important yeah most

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doctors are pretty good about that yes they are not as expensive as they used

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to be right yep the EpiPens I'm a big believer in what you just said beginners

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don't watch the videos on YouTube wear a big wear a suit head to toe if you can

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yes yes the main thing is it will make you so much more relaxed if you feel

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safe you can be relaxed you're just gonna have a much better experience with

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the bees if you're relaxed yes and with that said that does remind me that I

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want to do a bee removal on a second-story house by cutting through the

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drywall of the boys bedroom it had a couple boys living in one bedroom and

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one of the 14 year old son the oldest boy said mom you do not have to hire this

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lady why pay her when I can do it I'll do it for free mom I've watched the lady

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aunt I've watched the YouTube videos I can do it how many people show up in the

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emergency room because of that it worries me a lot I I know I'm it does it

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me too you know and I've heard it firsthand from the public I mean I just

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really stress the importance of knowing not to oh yeah that's a whole nother

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topic okay we won't get into that today Monica if anybody wants to find you where

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do they get you you can reach out to me at Monica M King calm and I have a

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YouTube channel at Kings Titan homestead all right and we'll have that website in

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the show notes to Monica King thank you so much for being with me today it's been

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fun thank you for having me it it has thank you now we're going all the way to

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Toulouse France to hear about a really cool new beekeeping product from Damien

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and hey just one quick word Damien is French he has a strong French accent you

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will be able to understand him if you listen closely so give him a little bit

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of grace and let's listen to Damien I'll be keeping the world actually use a

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traditional smoker in my activity for me use a traditional smoker it's so

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difficult for me it's difficult in first time to turn on correctly to keep it

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lit yes yes we all run into that I have two other problems with traditional

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smokers I've gotten better at lighting them and keeping them lit but if I'm

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only getting into one or two hives well once it's going it wants to go for another

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hour or something what do I do with it then the other thing that we have where

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I am is we have fire danger in the summer and it makes me very nervous what if I

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accidentally knocked over the smoker and it opened up and started to fire or

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something so it's very old technology I mean as old as fire and beekeeping

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basically so tell me what you've come up with yeah yes fire risk is very important

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for me too for example in Seuss was French it's fire ban and it's forbidden to

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use a smoker during a summer period because the visitation is so dry and the

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risk of fire it's it's so much important for me it's it's it's a big risk and in

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in so many parts in the world it's is a risk is very important too I know that

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you have invented something we have overcomes this problem tell me what you

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have invented yes for resolve this problem I have created one product is

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Hapisolis and he work without combustion sometimes I said it's the first

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smokeless smoker it's very easy to turn on and turn off and it work without

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combustion it's a product for for beekeepers for me it's it's it's a

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future of beekeeping this product it's not just a product safe it's very easier

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to to use and with this product I say sometimes all have evolved in beekeeping

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but except it's a traditional smoker it's a central tool in beekeeping it's for

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me it's it's a bridge it's a bridge between beekeeper and bees when I use a

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traditional smoker I have a good interaction with bees or not my answer

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it's not when I use a traditional smoker I use a smock and smoke it toxic for

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bees and toxic for me and I love bees and I want to have a better interaction

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with bees when I want to create that I want to create a perfect bridge between a

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beekeeper and the bees if I understand better the communication system

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communication of bees I can make a better formulation for speak with bees in my

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mind it's that I want to speak with bees at the end so communicating with the

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bees I love that so how does your your aposolus vaporizer work you call it a

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smokeless smoker does that mean you're not lighting anything on fire yes is

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there smoke going across the bees or I mean you call it a vaporizer what kind

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of vapor are the bees getting for makes a vapor I use the same technology like a

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vape and I use propylene glycol it's safe for human and for bees I use two

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active molecules already for each by bees and these two molecules you can find

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this molecule in lavender and rose with this molecule we can reduce

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significantly the aggression of the bees sounds like with lavender and rose it

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probably even smells good yes for those that are listening it's difficult to

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picture exactly what you've created but in the show notes we'll have a link to

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your website I think it sounds really interesting I haven't used it yet I can't

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wait to try it out thank you so much for joining us here on bee love bee keeping

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