Beekeeping in Hawaii - Honey Bee News, Tips & (not) Jeff Foxworthy

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May I have your attention, please? The following is not the real Jeff Voxworthy

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If you wear gloves while beekeeping for no other reason than it's easier than picking the propolis off your fingers

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You might be a beekeeper

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If you talk to your bees more than you talk to your spouse

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You might be a beekeeper

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If you smell a newly opened jar of honey before tasting it

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You might love honey bees

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Welcome welcome to bee love beekeeping podcast presented by our good friends over at Man Lake

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And hey a special thanks goes out to the not real Jeff Voxworthy for that fun intro

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At bee love we're all about honey bees and of course the beekeepers and if you're on the beekeeping adventure

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We would love to hear from you if you're just thinking about it

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This is a great place to learn from real-life beekeepers bees beekeepers and fun beekeeping stories

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It's all about the love

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Before we go all the way to Hawaii for our interview today with Jasmine Joy

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I've got to mention this news story that keeps popping up in my feed. I

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Don't know what to think of this. I welcome your feedback

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The headline reads artificial light found to disrupt the circadian cycle of vital ecosystems and economic pollinators

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Now they're talking specifically about bees here and let me just read you a few quotes from one of the articles

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Disrupted sleep cycles are a well-known concern for human health and function and now researchers have found similar impacts on

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insects a

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New study has found that artificial light disrupts the circadian rhythms of honey bees and

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poses a threat to their essential role as pollinators

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Now this study comes out of the University of California, San Diego

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And it found that light disruption is not only a health concern for humans

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But also for honey bees quote our research shows just how sensitive honey bees are to changes in their environment

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Particularly to something as seemingly benign as artificial light

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Honey bees generally prefer to nest in dark environments

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So let me just interject here because I don't really get this because

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Inside my beehives. It's pretty dark even during the daytime little little light comes in through the entrance, but

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at night

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Even if there's a little on beyond light

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It's got to be very dark in there. Doesn't it?

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So this is what this whole study was about

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Now if you read really closely

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It sounds like the way that they actually did this study was to keep honey bees in a completely

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Lit environment so much much brighter than inside a hive

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So take this all with a grain of salt, but I

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Yeah, I mean how often at night even in an urban kind of setting

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Unless you've got a great big old spotlight on your hive or something. Are they really getting much light from outside?

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So as soon as I bring that up I read this

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Bees sleep outside when they swarm or when they form beebeards

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Outside the nest on hot evenings, which are increasing under climate change

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Now this part I thought was kind of interesting actually

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It says sleep is crucial for the health and fitness of honeybee colonies

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Since they depend on an intricate system of communication

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Known as the waggle dance that informs hive mates about the location of food sources in the environment

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Here's the interesting part

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bees dance more poorly and therefore do not communicate as well if they do not get enough sleep. I

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Don't know what you want to do with this information for most people

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I don't think it's going to make any changes in what you do keeping bees whatsoever

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If you find yourself in maybe a really bright place

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Maybe you're in an urban environment

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You have a bee hive on the roof of a building that has spotlights on it or something

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I don't know maybe you put some kind of a shade canopy over the front or something

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So that they're not getting that direct light. Anyway, honeybees need to sleep too

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Maybe these days when the girls are just really grumpy. It's because they didn't have enough sleep

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Now let's go on over to Hawaii and find out what it's like doing beekeeping in a beautiful place

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I'd like to welcome our special guest today Jasmine Joy all the way from beautiful Hawaii Aloha

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Aloha Eric

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Mahalo for having me on your podcast be love. Well, you're so very welcome

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Yes, it's all about the love of bees and when I think of love of bees

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You're one of the first people that comes to mind because I visited your apiary about four years ago

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When it was in a different location, but it was so beautiful and so peaceful and you are someone so at tune with

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Your girlfriends the honeybees

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Oh, thank you. Yeah, it was it was great having you in the apiary

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You and Gil correct you and Gil came out. Yes the rolls of my girls

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Be rolls of your girls and Joey was our cameraman that day. Yeah, we had we had some good fun

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And he was brave Gil stayed about a mile away

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Joey put on a B suit no gloves so he could operate the camera and he did a pretty good job

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Where my girls pretty nice to you guys. They were very nice. They were very well behaved

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But as you told me you had told them ahead of time these nice people are coming

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Be on your best behavior. You had a whole conversation and before we ever turned on a camera

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We sat down with them for about 20 minutes and relaxed and and it was it was a great experience

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So thank you again for that

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But we're not here to talk about that today. We want to know what it is like to keep bees in Hawaii because it seems like

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It would be so easy

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Because there's flowers everywhere and the weather's perfect and is that the case? You can be honest

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I wouldn't say anything a part of apaculture is easy

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It's very much blood sweat and tears, but good tears tears of joy. Yeah, so what kinds of pest problems do you have there?

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well, we do have the varroa mite here and

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We have the small hive beetle

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We got the wax mop, but that's just that's not a big deal unless you just have old equipment in your hives already dead

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But between the varroa mite and this African small hive beetle those thrive here

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We can we can talk first about the small hive beetle because I have more enlightening news about the varroa mite

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Which is which is good to talk about on this podcast. Let's do it the small hive beetle

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I remember you were telling me or when you came to the apiary

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Eric that

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It was your first time seeing the beetles, correct? Well, yeah, I live in a cold climate and we just don't have them

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We have plenty of varroa and plenty of other problems, but yeah, the beetles are not there. So tell us how you deal with them

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Like to call them the Darth vaders of the hive because they just look like little black helmets walking around their scavengers

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They come from the grasslands area right below the Sahara desert in Africa

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so it the climate there is pretty similar to

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here in Hawaii and so they thrive here and

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They were originally first found in Florida

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Africa within the United States and then

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Just through I guess migratory beekeeping somehow they ended up here in Hawaii

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I can't tell you exactly how the beetles got here because the honey bee was introduced to Hawaii in 1857

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So that's 167 years ago. We're talking about and

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the honey bee being an introduced species to Hawaii that we're talking about Hawaii is the extinction and

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I believe in most it has the most invasive and it's the extinction and invasive capital of the world invasive species

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and so

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the honey bees are great because although they're introduced they're not invasive they're beneficial and

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even though they're introduced here

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This is one of the most favorable places in the world to keep honey bees Canada and the mainland United States rely on

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Hawaii on our queen bee production here

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They would be nowhere at their stature of apoculture in either of those regions if it wasn't for Hawaii

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And that's mostly on the big island, right? Yeah, that's mostly on the big island and boy

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Eric I've learned so much in this past year

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We can kind of touch be on the big island

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We can kind of touch base on outside of Oahu as well on

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other islands because in spring next year, I'll actually be fully

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moving to Kaua'i the island of Kaua'i, which is the most

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Northern island that's habitable. I mean there's Ni'i Hau, but it's owned by the Robinson family and that's just neighboring it

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But what is up there and Kaua'i doesn't have mites. Yeah, they do not have mites

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Now I had heard that about Molokai also

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I was about to say Molokai is the other one that doesn't have but the rest of the islands have the mites

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Finish small hive beetle. Do you have any magic solutions that other people can use?

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Well, you know, I'm going on 14 years of being a bee guardian attending to these beautiful sacred honey bees and

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I've tried many

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Many modalities. I'm a treatment free beekeeper. So that means I'm not using any pesticides

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What I do use though when I first started beekeeping and caring for honey girl organics hives, which is the organic skincare company

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It was my gateway into apoculture

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I go manage their creamery department and made manufactured their whole product line

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so they're making skincare from products in the hive the beeswax the honey and

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I learned how to rescue I did one structural removal in

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For bee rescuers or be removal specialists. We say cut out

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I did with the founder of honey girl organics and then I ran with it and started bee leave Hawaii in

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2011

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2012 I started beekeeping in 2011 2012 I started bee leave Hawaii

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And at the time

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Exterminators were still allowed to kill honey bees here and then a few years after that

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They were deemed a threatened species and then now they're not allowed to kill them unless they're aggressive and they're considered a pest, right?

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So with the African small hive beetle

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They thrive here because like I said, the climate is very similar to the grasslands below the Sahara desert

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They can smell honey supposedly like miles away

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If there's like a thriving hive somewhere they can smell it miles away fly to it go inside of the hive

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They'll lay eggs inside of the hive and then so this is their life cycle

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The Beatles lay eggs inside of the hive they hatch now they turn into like little little maggots. They're really disgusting

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they look exactly like a maggot and

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In that form they see the light of the entrance of the hive and they're like, oh

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They get all intrat go to the light

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I think of like the minions with the big eyes

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you should and so

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So they crawl out and they pupate in the soil below the hives so one already one way of IPM is I have weed mat

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I have one of my apiaries is on concrete like slabs. So that is already

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It slows down their prop there just the life cycle of that larva crawling out and crawling into

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Infupating in the soil right now in places where in apiaries where my hives are on

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They're on high stands, of course

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But then there's just dirt grass whatever below them

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I have weed mat before I even bring when I'm installing an apiary

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That's the first thing I'm doing is clearing the land and putting weed mat down to also

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prevent all the weeds from growing around the hives with and you know us beekeepers know

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Bees are sensitive to vibration and sounds so they don't like the weed wacker

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They're gonna come out all not happy and possibly stings and we're maintaining all our weeds and everything like that. So

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There's one one form of IPM already weed mat and then one one thing I learned along the years is

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There's this

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Spanish they either call it like Spanish or Cuban oregano. It's a pretty big leaf and it's fuzzy and it's and it's thick and

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We were installing the that oregano below the

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You know making foals little pucas in in the weed mat and just installing it

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planting it right under the apiary and then we saw that

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The the beetle count started to go down

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So it must be something in the oils of that oregano that

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That they don't like, you know, it kind of burns their exoskeleton or not the exo excuse me

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Not that it probably burns the the worms when they're trying to pupate in that soil. That's cool, right?

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All right out with the Darth vaders. Okay. Okay. You sounded excited about something you have for Varroa

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What are you doing there? Okay, so

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every year we have an annual beekeepers meeting at UH University of Hawaii at Manoa and

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And UH honey bee project hosts it a couple years ago. They had I want to say his name's dr. Steven Martin

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I don't have my notes on me, but I'm pretty sure that's his name and he's from

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England area like London England around that area and so

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Ethel dr. Ethel via Lobo, she's the founder and she runs the UH honey bee project

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So she's been working with him and she she had him

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as a like a guest speaker at our annual beekeepers meeting and

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it was so

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refreshing and

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It filled my honey heart. I like to say

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To because I've been a treatment free beekeeper my whole my whole profession my whole career as a beekeeper now

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I think there's way more beekeepers that treat than do not and so at this meeting

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was speaking about the studies that they've been doing is

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bees over time because of all the might and

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Their their own adaptability in in nature in the wild

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What they do is something called recapping and if you were if we're doing inspections in our hives and

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You look at the brood and you look at the cappings of the brood if it looks if they don't look seamless

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Like if that if that brood capping doesn't if it looks like there's small perforations in it

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There's a high chance that your bees are highly hygienic

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therefore

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the in the recapping process

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the bees are

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When there's mites in a cell the bees are able to detect it

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They reopen that that capped brood cell with the pupa in it and they cannibalize their own brood

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And what happens to the mite when they do that?

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Well once they cannibalize their own brood that mites scurries out and it's just yeah

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You know, I guess the mite is still present, but at least they're

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They're they're uncapping it and then the queen's able to lay another egg in there and then they're recapping and supposedly there's

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There's no ice. Yeah, the mite doesn't have a host

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Right, isn't that crazy?

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But it's cool

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So how do we encourage them to do that more or or is it just a matter of

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Here's something genetic that I'm seeing and I want to keep these genetics going see

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That question

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If you were to ask somebody else that isn't a bee rescuer or a bee removal specialist as myself

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They would probably they would definitely give you another answer for me

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Every single colony I've every owned has been rescued and I'm proud to say I've never even bought a queen bee in my whole life

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Because having multiple hives, I'm able to if there's a weak hive

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I could pull from another hive and pump it pump up that weak hive again

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if that weak hive is just really on its way out and

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I was crying when my hives got slimed by the beetles and just would lose hives and over time

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I've learned that the bees have really taught me

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Have how how to learn or to just transmute the grieving process

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and accept that

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They come and they go and I'm I'm a very spiritual person

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And I do believe in reincarnation and I I do believe and so I pray to my bees and the ones that don't make it

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I always just pray that

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They come back and even more golden healthy holy pumping hive and or something else not be maybe they want to be something else

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Yeah, so it's part of the life cycle. It's part of nature and it's okay

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Yep, and and bringing it back to that Eric

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And that's where I was trying to say is the the difference is if you were to ask just a beekeeper

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That's just like a hobbyist or a backyard beekeeper versus somebody. That's a conservationist as myself

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Is that it's the bees in the wild here that have grown this adaptability of this recapping process

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And so what dr. Stephen Martin was saying is that what he specifically all awful

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Has the potential to be the first place with mites but to be mite free

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Maybe it's more like mite resistant. Yeah, because this

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Adaptation I think that's it there can be mites, but if they don't bother my bees who cares

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Exactly and so toward the end of this meeting

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He made the suggestion to all the beekeepers in the room that if they are treating that they start weaning off their

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Bees from treatment. Wow

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I've never treated my bees so they're already ahead of the game

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And I do believe in survival of the fittest so because I'm rescuing these colonies. I end up the strongest

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Stocks and genetics of bees end up surviving in my apiaries

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So here in Hawaii since the honeybee was introduced in 1857. We only have two genetics

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The first the first bees that came

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First of all, they try to bring a hive all the way from the east coast and the hive melted

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Before it even got to Hawaii. So they're like, okay, that's not gonna happen

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So they decided to bring it from San Jose, California and they put the hive on a block of ice

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On the fanny major is the name of the ship

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And and then it came to Hawaii

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There were these brothers in new oanu area, you know the Pully area

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Yeah, that's why if you go to the lookout there, Eric

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You'll see a sign that says flying bees be aware

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Because new oanu was the first place that the bees when they were introduced to Hawaii

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They were situated in in a yard of these brothers that cared for them and from just I think there

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There were three hives those bees started to swarm

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And then I want to say a year or two after they brought

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More genetics and so the two genetics that we have here

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Are dark German and Italian

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The Polly is so windy. How do they even fly?

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That's what I'm saying

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That's why the sign is there because the bees like they could barely fly around because it's so yeah, they're all erratic

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Okay, I'm gonna really notice that closer the next time I'm there

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Thank you for opening my eyes to that. Are there any seasonality issues?

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Are there any dirth times at all?

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You know, I've been observing climate change into crisis since

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Seriously since 2018 in my journals and my logs

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And there was a year

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I want to say it was

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2021 around there 2020 2021. It was just like the beginning of the pandemic

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And I get a call from the Waimanala polo field

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And there's a lady that runs an equestrian program. I have so much respect for equestrians

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I feel like they're similar to beekeepers where horses are so special and intuitive

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If you don't have a relationship and a kinship with the horse that horse is gonna buck you off like the bees state new, you know

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So just like the bees always bring me to the coolest most magical places. I appreciate that so much

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So what was happening there?

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She had a section in the polo field where she was running tours with like children

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adults too, but mostly children where it was like that building that relationship

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trusting I think it was bear back on the horses things like that

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And she calls me up one day and she goes hi. Do you think you could come assess a situation that's going on here?

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There's bees that are coming and eating the food that I'm feeding my horses and I said what?

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She goes yeah, and one of my horses got stung and won't eat anymore

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Because she knows that the bees keep going to the trough there where the food the feed is

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And she won't eat and I was like, oh no

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Four four horse. Well, then that's smart too. The horse is like check now. I'm not gonna go over there and get stung again

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Well, and bees don't eat horse food

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No, so check this out eric. What happened is I get there

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And I see the bees so the horses eat

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soy

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Little little pellets that literally look like pollen pellets

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And the bees are on the ground with the with the it's basically like edamame pellets, right?

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And and so the bees are on the ground packing these soy pellets on their legs like pollen

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Which when you think about it if it's like at a moment, this is gmo because

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Soy is one of the four major gmo crops

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And the fact that I saw that I put it all together that there's not enough pollen in the trees and that year we had a drought

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Like we we did not get a lot of rain that season and we had just we were just coming out of winter going into spring

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And when I saw that I was like wow the flora around us isn't even producing enough

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Protein for the bees which is their pollen intake and they need that

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You know, they can't just live off of nectar. They need a balanced diet just as like us human beings

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That is really interesting and for those that don't know the geography around there

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Waimanalo is a is not a dry place. Yeah, there are dry parts of the island

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Waimanalo is green and it's near the mountains and well in fact, that's where your apiary was and it was

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Yeah, so so it was just dry enough that even though probably things looked green. They weren't creating pollen. Yeah

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Interesting. Yeah, and and to add on to Waimanalo. It is an agricultural

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So a lot of our invasive species end up concentrated there like there's huge iguanas there right now

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And they're not anywhere else on the island and we're like, oh my god keep those iguanas there in Waimanalo

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Those are not native to there by the way. No, we can the koki frogs which are from big island anytime they hear one

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Uh department of ag will will spend night and they find me it will they come out at night

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So they'll go listen to it and then just find it and spray it and

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And that's done. I have read about that and I get it where my daughter lives on the big island

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All night long you hear the koki frogs, but I love it to me. It is so relaxing

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But they're surprisingly loud

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And I know they don't want them to hit all the other islands. How are they going to keep um varroa mites from

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kawaii

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They can hitch a ride on a barge or a boat and accidentally get over there

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Ask the people in australia. Yeah, it's we've it's been that this way for

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So many years now. I hope that we can continue that

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But like that's prohibited. We're not even allowed to be

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moving

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Bees island to island sure and as I mentioned when the bees were introduced in 1857

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50 years after that they prohibited any more outside bees from coming in because within 50 years

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We were thriving already just

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By the bees were coming from those two genetics that they brought in and they must have been good genetics

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Yeah, like I had the honor and privilege of rescuing bees from eolani palace in august of 2020

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and pandemic and

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They were concerned that those were africanized bees because there were there was a beehive at every tower corner of the palace

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And they were coming down and stinging tourists and stinging guests and stinging even the security guards

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So they took

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They they they found a dead one or whatever grabbed a specimen and gave it to you a chinese bee project and dr. Ethel via loboskos

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No, they're just dark germans

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Oh, thank goodness. There's nothing africanized over there at this point. Tell me about some of the things that you do business wise

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So you mentioned removals?

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Yeah, and is that the majority of what you do? That's what the elite hawaii is founded on and I

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We are we are the lead bee removal

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Company on oahu at least the the type of work that we do is historical industrial commercial

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We do residential and that's how we started off. So yeah, we help the auntie and uncle and the the tutus and everything and

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I give them

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More of a personable. I'm very personable with all my clients

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I like to give the kupuna our elders. I give them a little discount

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They're they're just living off of their retirement and they're so grateful for that, you know

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And I'm just grateful that them being

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At as elders they have the consciousness and awareness of keeping these bees alive because a lot of these older

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Generations are like kill the bees. They don't even think about it because they didn't grow up in in the time of this scarcity

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of everything kind of of it the whole natural world and

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And the pollinators and they're so important

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I'm founded as a bee removal service

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it was

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2015 so three years after starting the bee removal business

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Was when I started to pivot and expand and then the full circle or full hexagon

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I like to say

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Of bili, hawaii is a rescue relocate rehabilitate and educate

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So the bees that I rescue I relocate them to my partnership farms bee sanctuaries

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and then I rehabilitate them with so much love

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and holistic methods of caring for them and then the education the last part is what I just did today

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I started the first my first outreach class of this of this school year and

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this is my seventh

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anniversary of doing it's called the pollinator outreach program. So I call it pop

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and I've been bringing my rescued bees to schools for over seven years now

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it fills my heart to

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everything everything I do that bili, hawaii encompasses from saving the bees that and that's hard work. It's like being a

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demolition construction worker

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and cutting open structures and just using my infrared camera to even identify be established beehives

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inside of the wall

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and the reason I'm able to pick up their where they're at is because they have the same heat as a human body

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They're 97 degrees in a wall and that's why my thermal imager can pick them up

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So from there to that full hexagon or full circle in teap bringing these bees to schools

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And then my latest program Eric and I started it after

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We you had come to the apiary is called believe university

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and it's a beekeeping school and

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I'm about to launch my first virtual course, but it will be my fifth cohort that I'll be teaching

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So I just this year were wrapped up my fourth in-person cohort

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I have 18 graduates out of these last four cohorts

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Each each cohort I max it out at at six students

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So I had five in my first one three in the second four in the third and five five in this last one

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And is that a one-time class or come all right? I had once a week or

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Or how does that work? It's a 16 week program

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And they would they would come every Thursday from 10 to 2 to my partnership farm

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Hoa, Aina, Omokaha in YNI on the west side 16 weeks. That's pretty thorough 16 weeks

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And so how I break it down I break it down quarterly

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I'll tell you the titles, but I break it down the first quarter is about spirit of the bee

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The second is mine the third is body and the last is environment

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And so in that first quarter it's called superorganism psyche

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I attune my students to tap into their intuition and

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And feel into their honey hearts

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And I have this formula that I channeled

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I tell my students when it comes to beekeeping

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This is the formula. It's 3s before 2t

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The 3s stands for sight scent and sound

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Before 2t is taste and touch. So these are our five senses and we can smell

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We can hear and we can see

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We can watch the entrance of a hive. We can smell what's wafting out of the entrance and we can listen to

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Their hum their buzz before we even open that hive and touch a frame or taste that honey

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The inspection already starts there. Absolutely

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We have a good idea of what's going on. Yeah, I mean, I I get it commercial beekeepers

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They've got a thousand hives. They've got to just book through it all for those of us that are hobbyists

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Or like you that can take the time. I recommend take the time

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Spend some time

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Quieting yourself before you even get near the bees. So you can be more in tune

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We actually consider calling this podcast intuitive beekeeping, but we like be love better

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It's so much about being intuitive. I believe I'm not quite as into it

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I can't communicate with my bees as well as you can

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But there are plenty of times. Oh, don't don't tell some people that you're I'm saying this but

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Where I ask them, what do you need? I can tell you need something

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You've got a problem here and there's eight different ways that we can approach it

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What do you need? What's going to be best for you? And I really try to listen. I can't say I'm great at it

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But I'm trying

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Just to hear you say that Eric it it makes me happy because

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you being a male beekeeper and

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In the world of apaculture

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there it's there's so many male beekeepers and

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I think a lot of them too are are on the more conventional side, right?

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For me, there's this symbolism in the patriarchy, you know in this last decade

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We've all been watching this whole patriarchy just kind of like

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slowly crumble in in many facets

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And I look to the bees like I look to the world

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I look at the super organism of the hive and the matriarchy like if we as a human species

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Would honor mother earth the way that her daughters even even the drones like the drone passes on his I call them kamikaze king bees

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They mate with her in the sky. They pass on their lineage. They have an explosive orgasm and fall to the ground

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What a way to go. Come on. Don't feel sorry for him

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Did you ever see the meme it said honey mat churio?

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Yes

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four drones

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but

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Can you imagine Eric if like?

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We honored as a human race the planet as

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Her offspring honor her the queen

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How much more harmonious this this place would be

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All right, we're running out of time. You wanted to talk about the big island. What's going on over there? Is it just the queens?

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Yes, it has a lot to do with the queens and I am not going to throw any

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Organizations or companies under the bus by naming names

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But let's just say that I've learned so much this year about gmo bees genetically modified organism bees

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The artificial insemination of just queen breeding already. There's a dishonor just

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The the the way that it's done

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How they even take the queens before they ship them off and they put them like they gasp them in a bag so that they just kind of

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Basically fall asleep for a little bit and I'm just like, oh my god like

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If we have a queen breeder on the big island listening

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You're welcome to come on the show and give your side of the story

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yeah

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Yeah, and I have I have no daggers to throw at anybody in that

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I'm not doing those things. I'm just

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Representing myself and what I believe in and I come from a neutral

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stance. I'm not here to judge any other beekeepers

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I know we're all very quirky very eccentric and all very different

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And that's it. I'm just here sharing what I believe in is bono, which is righteous and just and balance and

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and whoever

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feels inspired to learn from me. I I just hold the the deepest

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space for them and a very safe container of

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mentorship guardianship so that

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Really what it is

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Bee leave university and the way that I teach is is do or chip not just for the bees. It's for the whole planet. It's for

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All sentient beatings

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By the way, if people want to look you up you keep saying be leave with their whether it's university or hawaii

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It's be leave

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Hawaii calm. Yeah, by the way, they can find you it'll be in the show

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Notes

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To I have two more questions for you that I need to let you go

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One is I want to hear one wild and crazy beekeeping story from you

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Oh one wild

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Something that stands out that was like, oh, I can't believe that happened or it was painful or it was embarrassing or

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We all have them come on

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I mean there was one time where I was in an industrial place and there were at least four bee hives in the building

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And it was my handyman and I were just on the job site

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And we were on his truck and since it was a pretty big building

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He was like, okay, jump on and he thought I had like I was holding on to his truck

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And then he just started driving and I just like rolled tuck and rolled off the truck

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And he was like, oh my god, I go you're lucky. I'm a retired professional skin boarder and I know how to fall

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But I was okay. I just kind of stuffed my elbow, but

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You didn't have any bees land on top of you or anything. Oh, they'll believe but no, that would have been even better

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Anyway, that's a good one. What Jasmine?

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What brings you joy of beekeeping?

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knowing that I can provide these

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Nature's true alchemists these little fairies these little devas that I can provide them

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beautiful sanctuaries to thrive in and that they're going out into the world

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creating these beautiful sacred geometric

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shapes all around like healing our world feeding us and

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I've always known that

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I wanted to make this world a better place since I was a little girl and and help humans and and animals

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And I get to do all of it through the bees by taking care of them and they're feeding

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us

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And that is what truly fills my honey heart and brings me joy all the time. Thank you

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Well, you even have joy in your name Jasmine joy Mahalo

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Mahalo and careful. Appreciate you being with me today. Thank you so much

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And our tip of the day is something that I was reminded of while having that conversation with Jasmine

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And that is take your time do whatever it takes to be relaxed

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Observe the bees smell listen

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I once had it described to me as

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Pretend like you're doing tai chi slow rhythmic movements your bees will love you for it

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And I also have a question of the day

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I recently was on a beekeeping social media site where someone posted a photo of their hives already for winter and asked if the ventilation looked okay

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Trying to be helpful. I responded that in cold climates bees still need ventilation to control the humidity in the hive

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immediately of course

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Someone else slammed on me saying that bees self ventilate

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So close up your hives almost completely with just one little tiny entrance and that's it

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This is one of those beekeeping things where there are so many factors involved and there are so many different opinions

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So if you have some profound thoughts on winter hive ventilation in cold climates

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Please send an email to Eric at be love beekeeping.com

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Same with any other feedback that you have for the show

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